WaMu Gave Grandma's Money to Crooks
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New York Times Reporting on ICT
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Wednesday, May 03, 2006
another insider's account of Client Care Relations
If you're wondering where all the manufacturing jobs in America are going or have gone, read on.
The part about not being able to do business in Ohio is interesting. I guess Ohio has already gone after this company.
As with other posts, this is published anonymously with the permission of the person who emailed me:
I referred the person who wrote me to some state investigators.
The part about not being able to do business in Ohio is interesting. I guess Ohio has already gone after this company.
As with other posts, this is published anonymously with the permission of the person who emailed me:
I stumbled onto your site quite by accident, but I was not suprised to see Quebec listed as the location for part of this telemarketing scam. I live in Montreal, Quebec and I would have to say that 70% of jobs for non-professionals are telemarketing ones, (Google montreal job boards or newspaper classifieds and you will see what I mean - it is often just called 'sales'). You say it is a dying business - well no one informed Quebec, even though I wish they would.
I recently worked for one of these outfits for two weeks before I was making myself sick being involved. I have absolutely no money and no job either now, but I would rather live in a cardboard box on a street corner than to scam innocent and/or desperate people. I worked on a 'campaign' for Grant Proposals. The company goes out of their way to make it look government affiliated. Upstairs they have another campaign regarding prescription meds for seniors in the USA.
I think what is going on is disgusting.
Clients were having the same problems getting help as you mention. In 8 days I got 8 calls from clients trying to get refunded but having no success in reaching anyone at the 'customer service'.
The other red flag is the Las Vegas, Nevada bit. The campaign I worked claimed the company was out of there. They also claimed to be with the BBB, but all they had done was submit their address. What I later found out was that they had changed the company name and phone numbers, (ostensibly due to problems from scamming with the other names and numbers)
I wish I could sit in a corner there and tell the people who call these places, (i was on an inbound campaign), NOT to believe, trust or give any info to these people. I did find a way to tell many of them they could get better info on gov't grants and help from their local library and librarian. I REALLY wish you luck stopping these scumbags. I think what is going on is dispicable.
If there is any way I could help you, being here in Quebec, I would be happy to. Most of the people who call for these things were in need of Oprah's angel network, not being scammed.
The Company name for the campaign I worked was Liberty First Financial, (but this was a 'new' name for an 'old' scam) I was paid by check from a payroll company called Ceridian, (Ceridian is a legit payroll co. - I recieved my pay from proper businesses who used their services in the past), but the company that hired them to do payroll is just another number company easy to open and close - the current 'number' is 62448837 Canada Inc., 1181 Sainte-Catherine, Montreal, QC H3B 1K4. It is a grey little inconspicuous door behind a guy selling perfume in downtown Montreal. No sign, even on the inside office door upstairs - but, they're there. I would not be at all suprised to find out that this co. is linked to what has happened to your grandma. I think they call themselves y2k or something like that....
**so i went to las vegas nevada bbb and look-y here what I found:
Liberty First Financial, otherwise known as Priority First Financial
Priority First Financial
(Liberty First Financial)
1117 Desert Ln. #1529
Las Vegas, NV 89102
http://search.bbb.org/
n.b. they are NOT a bbb member (no logo to the left of their name) coincidence? I think not!
**n.b. we were not allowed to do business with OHIO and two other states, (sorry can't remember other two, but I am trying to get in touch with a friend who is still there while he looks for something else - he too is feeling morally guilty for what he is involved in, but does not have the luxury of choosing a cardboard box as living arrangements! If I can get the info I will forward it)
Sincerely,
<withheld>
p.s. please find below links I found of others scammed by Liberty First Financial (postcards sent out as Liberty First Financial, First Liberty Financial and Priority First Financial)
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff186151.htm
http://badbusinessbureau.com/reports/ripoff184283.htm
a couple of these run the same script as what I was given - probably the 'old' name....
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/scam_alerts/grant.html
n.b. by the time i joined they were working an INBOUND campaign (meaning folks called a number on a piece of junk mail). We were told to answer questions of legitimacy by pointing out we had NOT called them, rather they had called us, (but, d'uh, we sent out the postcards) and that we were with the BBB Las Vegas....
I recently worked for one of these outfits for two weeks before I was making myself sick being involved. I have absolutely no money and no job either now, but I would rather live in a cardboard box on a street corner than to scam innocent and/or desperate people. I worked on a 'campaign' for Grant Proposals. The company goes out of their way to make it look government affiliated. Upstairs they have another campaign regarding prescription meds for seniors in the USA.
I think what is going on is disgusting.
Clients were having the same problems getting help as you mention. In 8 days I got 8 calls from clients trying to get refunded but having no success in reaching anyone at the 'customer service'.
The other red flag is the Las Vegas, Nevada bit. The campaign I worked claimed the company was out of there. They also claimed to be with the BBB, but all they had done was submit their address. What I later found out was that they had changed the company name and phone numbers, (ostensibly due to problems from scamming with the other names and numbers)
I wish I could sit in a corner there and tell the people who call these places, (i was on an inbound campaign), NOT to believe, trust or give any info to these people. I did find a way to tell many of them they could get better info on gov't grants and help from their local library and librarian. I REALLY wish you luck stopping these scumbags. I think what is going on is dispicable.
If there is any way I could help you, being here in Quebec, I would be happy to. Most of the people who call for these things were in need of Oprah's angel network, not being scammed.
The Company name for the campaign I worked was Liberty First Financial, (but this was a 'new' name for an 'old' scam) I was paid by check from a payroll company called Ceridian, (Ceridian is a legit payroll co. - I recieved my pay from proper businesses who used their services in the past), but the company that hired them to do payroll is just another number company easy to open and close - the current 'number' is 62448837 Canada Inc., 1181 Sainte-Catherine, Montreal, QC H3B 1K4. It is a grey little inconspicuous door behind a guy selling perfume in downtown Montreal. No sign, even on the inside office door upstairs - but, they're there. I would not be at all suprised to find out that this co. is linked to what has happened to your grandma. I think they call themselves y2k or something like that....
**so i went to las vegas nevada bbb and look-y here what I found:
Liberty First Financial, otherwise known as Priority First Financial
Priority First Financial
(Liberty First Financial)
1117 Desert Ln. #1529
Las Vegas, NV 89102
http://search.bbb.org/
n.b. they are NOT a bbb member (no logo to the left of their name) coincidence? I think not!
**n.b. we were not allowed to do business with OHIO and two other states, (sorry can't remember other two, but I am trying to get in touch with a friend who is still there while he looks for something else - he too is feeling morally guilty for what he is involved in, but does not have the luxury of choosing a cardboard box as living arrangements! If I can get the info I will forward it)
Sincerely,
<withheld>
p.s. please find below links I found of others scammed by Liberty First Financial (postcards sent out as Liberty First Financial, First Liberty Financial and Priority First Financial)
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff186151.htm
http://badbusinessbureau.com/reports/ripoff184283.htm
a couple of these run the same script as what I was given - probably the 'old' name....
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/scam_alerts/grant.html
n.b. by the time i joined they were working an INBOUND campaign (meaning folks called a number on a piece of junk mail). We were told to answer questions of legitimacy by pointing out we had NOT called them, rather they had called us, (but, d'uh, we sent out the postcards) and that we were with the BBB Las Vegas....
I referred the person who wrote me to some state investigators.
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